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Dear Dr. Escudero
I have great respect for ur work, but I myself have discovered a technique that opens a pathway to the Autonomous Nervous System, and my technique is a verbal one.
I have used this technique so far for Analgesia, and it works perfectly for any Chronic Pain.
I did no Anesthesia for surgery since I am not a Medical professional.
My technique takes just a couple of minutes, and it has to do with seeding a notion, and then utilizing that notion to bring about Analgesia. It alleviates 95-100% of the pain.
This technique has not worked for Acute pains, but I am working on developing it.
This technique has nothing to do with any emotions on my part, not any at all. It's a pure technique.
But I agree that it IS using the process of thinking.
I do not call it Noesitherapy since I am not sure that we (you and I) are using the same technique.
I have also used this technique for Psychotherapy doing Panic Attacks, Anxiety, Depression... etc. And it takes just a few minutes of work. And the results are Magical.
My explanation is that I change the Internal state of the body through the Autonomous Nervous System. And I suppose that all such psychological problems exist due to that internal state.
I never met you... unfortunately, and we are doing this thing in two different languages with a different set of tools.
However, I think I have a more precise technique... that is, I can send a very particular and very specific messages along the X nerve.
I have not yet decided what to name this technique.
A comment from your side will be greatly appreciated.
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Dear unknown friend:
Congratulations for your experience! It will be a pleasure to answer each one of your questions, but first I would like to know something about your person. I Don’t know your name. You can send me the information that you consider important about your life by e mail through the forum.
Best wishes.
Dr. Escudero
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Dear Dr. Escudero
I am happy to announce that I have performed a new technique using a Parakeet (a bird that imitates human verbal sounds).
In the experiment the bird was trained to make human verbal sounds made specific to relieve Migraine headaches. Several patients were left in a room with the bird, and they get out of the room after just a few minutes... and the migraine disappeared.
Dr., I doubt the technique has anything to do with Love as a feeling.
Let's talk here... no need for a private talk invitation...
I can state all my facts here...
Awaiting ur reply...
Mohammad Musayyeb
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Dear Mohammad:
Congratulations! Even using a bird, every word produces -through the patient's brain- and effect (positive or negative, according to the meaning of the word). But, you are wrong when you think that LOVE is out of this experiment, because only if the patient loves himself, which is the same of having the desire to obtaining the well-being needed, the words of the bird will produce the desired effect.
Dr. Escudero
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Thank u Doctor Escudero
I have much respect for ur knowledge, as I have a simple question: Can we achieve Analgesia by a phone message?
As an example, can we interrupt someone's Migraine by writing him a message?
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Of course, it is possible.
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Thank you for your replies.
I have a few more questions here:
1- If a patient is going to be his own doctor, then how do we explain to a child about his disease, so he can be his own doctor?
2- How can Noesitherapy be as Emergency Medical help?
3- In your book "Healing through Thinking" you mentioned the boy who was a casualty of a traffic accident. You said you used a bottle of water to relieve his pains. Can you shed some light on that? What did u tell him, how did you use the water?
I appreciate your replies.
I have verified all of your answers, and they are all true. But I am amazed, you have been working with it already since 1972, why is the Medical Community not aware of this marvelous technique?
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Dear friend:
I answer your questions:
1- Through the mother’s thought, there is a special relationship between mother’s brain and children’s one. The mother’s thought produces a clear effect in their babies, for good of even for bad.
2- Teaching to medical students, doctors, nurses, etc. the bases of NOESITHERAPY.
3- I only used water for cleaning his wounds.
4- Because the official medicine is directed for people and organizations that their purposes are not to spread around the world the way to obtain health; they need disease as the way to obtain economic profit.
Dr. Escudero
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Doctor, I tried helping a patient with Torticollis, got no results...
Any suggestions?
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Of course: you need more confidence in yourself.
Best wishes.
Dr. Escudero
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Doctor
I work using a technique, I do NOT work using emotions.
And while working this way gives me very high success rates with Pains, Phobias, Asthmas and so forth, I got no success with Torticollis...
Is there any other explanation?
Is working with Torticollis similar to working with any other specific case?
Have u done Torticollis?
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Dear Mohammad:
Is there any other explanation?-Of course, but I have not enought information.
Is working with Torticollis similar to working with any other specific case?-¡Yes!
Have u done Torticollis?-¡Yes!
Best wishes.
Dr. Escudero
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Thank you Doctor for your half-hearted replies
Please bear with me, for in my search for the truth, I ask many questions...
But this time I will as a question asked by many.
Many read about your work, and that your only technique is the feeling of LOVE...
Many people read your work, and that your only technique is the feeling of Love. And they try repeating your words verbatim. And in their first trials they are so confident that they have no doubt they will reach the cure they want.
And they use liquid Saliva too, yet... they fail.
You might say, it's lack of Love... but a mother tries that for her child. And I am sure she loves her child more than you love your patient, and yet... she fails.
This thing does not work without a technique, and for 40 years you have been saying this is only the feeling of Love. Yet, you did not allow any scientific investigations into your work.
Any replies... Doctor?
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Dear friend:
The bases of Noesitherapy is the POSITIVE BIOLOGICAL RESPONSE, started by every positive thought. and the liquid saliva (vagal saliva) is the most important signe of it.
Love (the therapist's desire for helping his patient) is the catalizer that is able to start the patient's will to use the creative power of his/her thought in order to obtain the health the patient needs.
In order to obtain the desire results using the creative power of thought it is necessary to change many things in our negative education. Human being was educated to accept the bad without arguments, and to denie the good in the same way. Humanity needs to change this negative education, this is the only way to use correctly the marvelouse possibilities inside human soul: the divine energy that gives us the possibility of living.
We need understand that reality exists before its explanation, and that science must be humble because its main goal is to explain everything ignored inside and around us in the Universe.
Best wishes.
Dr. Escudero
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Nice words. A Philosophy, and some advice. Nothing more...
But why not allow a scientific team to investigate your work?
You say you had zero% post-operative infections. Did a scientific body investigate that? Or are you the only person who claims that?
I do not do Surgical Anesthesias since I am not a doctor, but in your 40 years of work (and teachings to thousands) you are still the only person who does surgical anesthesia. Obviously that philosophy and advice is not enough to enable people to replicate your work. Which again leads to the same question: Why not allow a scientific team to investigate your work?
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Hello "Phonemics" (¿¿¡!??), hello dear Dr. Escudero. I find interesting your discussion and I wish it to continue. But before I want to clear somethings:
1.- Phonemics ¿why are you so interested in abolishing emotions in the work with patients?. ¿Don’t you know that it’s impossible because human being necessarily experiments emotions at less he has brain damage?. You can eliminate the expression of emotions, but not its existence The “pure technique” does not exist, it’s a pose of being nively neutral, in the hearts of hearts it’s false. Nor the coldest decissions in life are taken without emotions, in fact coldness is an emotion –contractive, but emotion at the end-
2.- I read your experience with the parakeet. Besides the explanation of Dr. Escudero, I add here another one you must take in consideration seriously: I imagine myself beeing a patient with migraine, then I enter in a room with a parakeet imitating human sounds, -I have therefore the intention of solving my ache and my brain is receiving this implicit message, an important fact; I've accepted also to participate in the experiment probably because I'm hopeful it will alleviate my suffering, and furthermore it promises to be amusing, another important fact when we talk about thinking-... Moreover I’m really shocked and my attention goes entirely on this surprising/astonishing situation... The next, as a minimum, is... that I start laughing because this surrealistic situation... as a consequence I enter in PBR so my vagus nervous is estimulated, the strong constriction of the arteries is softenned and the blood arrives freely everywhere... simultaneously my body produces small quantities of endorphines, oxitocine, dopamine, serotonine... and my migraine dessapears. By the way, in the process of preparing the experiment, the experimenter surely has enjoyed, laughed, and experimented a variety of amusing emotions working with the parakeet and imagining what would be the reactions of the patients.
3.- You expose that your technique –free of emotions, of course- alleviates pain in 2 minutes till 90-100%, although still not in accute pains, you are working on it. Congratulations but I think that your patients and you are very happy when pain dissapears, I mean, you experience emotions, and the previous positive expectation is also a kind of emotion. I repeat: it’s illusory the absence of emotions in the interactions between humans.
4. I like your investigatory attitude and the demand of direct responses. What I don’t like is your “hunter background”. Be more natural-straightforward, not so suspicious, you’ll arrive further.
5. ¿Would you answer to this post?: “but first I would like to know something about your person. I Don’t know your name. You can send me the information that you consider important about your life by e mail through the forum. Best wishes.” I'd like also.
Kind regards,
Pablo
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Dear Pablo
I am interested in something easy to learn, and easy to teach. Therefore I have devised a technique. The technique stimulates the Autonomous Nervous System (ANS) nerve, and then all I have to do is use it positively. I use No Emotions in the sense that it has nothing to do with the feeling of Love. I just do my best not to hurt the patient, and not to suggest anything negative. But I use a "Pure Technique". And the use of the Parakeet is just a proof that it's a Pure Technique.
I believe all the patient needs is that stimulation of ANS, so then he can utilize it for his own good...
As for Acute pain, I have used the same technique with 2 fracture cases (One spinal, and one Femur), and in those I stimulated the Sympathetic (not Vagus), and I got total Analgesia (and possible Anesthesia)... That analgesia was with hyperactivity, but... NO PAIN. And I think that is something New...
Again, a pure technique... Has nothing to do with Love, or Self-Confidence. And can be done using a recorder, or even a Parakeet... Easy to learn...
I don't know what u mean with "Hunter Background". But I salue u if u r correct, and forgive u if u r wrong. However, u r under no obligation to explain...
As for "something about myself"... I just do not like to write my own Curriculum Vitae... And I think it is not needed in a scientific discussion...
Anyway, I expected Dr. Escudero to answer, but seems he is against any investigation into his work. This way he shows he is only interested in attracting people for "Courses about Love"... And I know people who attended his courses, and they r convinced such a thing exists, but they cannot help anyone...
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Dear Pablo:
¡Do not worry, be HAPPY!
Dr. Escudero
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Hallo Mohammad, I think you are confused in certain aspects:
The first is that analgesia through the stimulation of simpathetic is not new, it’s a well known and researched fact in war, in the battle field, or in physical extreme situations going against life. The ‘collateral’ effects -for being soft- of simpathetic stimulation it seems doesn’t make it suitable.
The second is that no one has asked you about your CV, but much more simple, something so simple as “first I would like to know something about your person. I don’t know your name. You can send me the information that you consider important about your life by e-mail through the forum. Best wishes” (cursive is mine). ¿Where did you read about CV?.
The third is that Noesitherapy is not a technique for obtaining psychoanalgesia. Psychoanalgesia is one more -only one more, and not the best- of the many good fruits following the proper use of your thought. In fact is not “the goal” of Noesitherapy but a powerful result that encourages anyone who approaches to Noesitherapy; it breaks through the “universal truth” of pain, and, so implicitly, questions any other limits and supposedly “universal truths” blocking human being.
The fourth is that if you make a statement as the one you make in the last paragraph, you must support it. Saying “but seems” and concluding from the seems that “this way he shows he is only interested” is only poor gossip. You must differentiate between what belongs to your “imaginary” and what belongs to the real facts. Be simple and healthy in your mind and heart and your reason will flight. Anyway it shows your proceeding way is very far from science procedures, you need more qualification for "scientific discussion" and "investigation".
The fifth is that I’m sure you know people who, after having attended Dr. Escudero’s course, cannot help anyone, me too, as it happens in any field of knowledge; but I also know people that has changed his life in very positive ways, including myself, and even more, in my work I have the satisfaction of helping others with Noesitherapy.
The sixth: to the people you say you know cannot help others, and to yourself, I recommend this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZxBRFGdzfU
Best wishes. Continue improving your technique.
Pablo López
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Thank u Pablo for ur lengthy discourse...
Where did u read that I use Noesitherapy? I do not use this, and all I said was that I have a "technique" that opens a path to the autonomous nervous system...
Scientific? if u know about this word, then u can explain about investigations (scientific, of course) into Zero% infections... and this was the point of discussion... and if u know no such investigations, then "it seems" there r none...
Prior to last, I can teach people and they can do the thing as well as I can, in just a few days time... that is, I will teach them a technique, not just words about Love...
Last, I think u should be Happy and not worry about a discussion in which u want no gain...
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